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    Karthik

    Hello Alex,

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  • sbonikowske
    I have to agree... I love the trackman corded trackball. I too have convinced many people to switch to these style trackballs.   I really hope that this is just a dry point while you update the design or something because I would be very sad to see these gone for good.   If anyone knows where some of these are that I could purchase I would like to buy several.     Thanks,   Scott sbonikowske@gmail.com
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  • The Grim Reefer
    Thank you for my answer. I can see by your lack of response not only to my inquiry, but others as well, that Logitech has become deaf or complacent in it's attitude toward it's customers.
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  • kbrasee
    Scott, there's a ton of them on eBay.  Should be available there for a good long time.
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  • bearcat668
    Add me to the list of unhappy trackman wheel users! I can't use a wireless device at work, so am trying to find some substitute.  I have the wireless version at home, but find I like the wired better.   Please, please, Logitech, bring back the wired trackman wheel! Better yet, bring back the original three button version.   Off to Ebay to scoop up as many as I can...............
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  • The Grim Reefer
    I agree. I liked the original 3-button version better too.
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  • micyou3
    I also wish I could get a new wired Trackman Wheel.  I bought one for work a little ove a year ago when my elbow began hurting me from repetive wrist motion from my mouse.  I tried the one with the ball in the middle and I can't for the life of me figure out how to get my finger to move in all directions to use it.  I returned it and got the Trackman Wheel mouse with the ball where mt thumb is.  Soon after I bought one for home.  Now I want one for my laptop and I am having a difficult time finding a new one.  The only place I see them is on ebay and they are selling for over $50 plus shipping.  I am using a wireless one right now but I have no reason to need two pieces and a battery to worry about. What is the reason for these to be wireless anyway.  Its not like you have to move them.   Also here is an idea for you.  Make a version that could be used with the ball or by moving the whole mouse so that people who aren't accustomed to the ball could also use it.
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  • skydevilxxx
    You can add me my wife and one of my kids to the list of long time wired Trackman trackball users who are now having to look elsewhere for solutions to what is a very awful decision on your part. For those users who want one of these. Good luck I have found a few around 80.00 if you can find them.
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  • kitteny
    I have fibromyalgia.  When I hurt, I try to move the least amount I can.  So I can't use regular mice.  My brother got me a trackball mouse and I love it.  The only problem is I can't use wireless mice with my desktop computer.  I'm not sure why but my computer just won't recognize them.  I've tried several different brands.  This is why I like my wired trackball mouse.  It's the perfect fit for my hand, the buttons are in the ideal position.  I can't find another trackball mouse that fits and is comfortable for me to use when I hurt.  I tried the ambidextrous mouse at a store, and it was not comfortable to use at all.  I don't know what I'm going to do if Logitech stops making these for good.  I guess I'm just gonna have to stock up on them somewhere.
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  • gamerrusty
    Add my self and at least 30 friends that have switched to this mouse to the list of people that will miss the wired track man.  I really hope that logiteck wises up because the only wired trackball they have left is compleatly different and i, for one, feel it to be very uncomfortable.  plus i wont use any wireless mouse because they are unrelyable and lag for high speed gaming.  I like the idea of a wired M570 but hurry up with it.    True, you can buy an old trackman on ebay but I cant see myself spending more money on one then I did over twelve years ago.  If it is a new and improved I would have no problem.   Logitech, please give us something.
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  • foobula
    It's back, hurry and stock up!
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  • The Grim Reefer
    Thanks Foobla!   Logitech does not have these listed on their site but there are three companies on Amazon that are listing them in stock. For those of you who are interested you can find them at the following link:   http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Trackman-Wheel-Optical-Silver/dp/B00005NIMJ/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1297868284&sr=8-2[http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Trackman-Wheel-Optical-Silver/dp/B00005NIMJ/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1297868284&sr=8-2]   I just ordered 3   If anyone else sees these for sale somewhere else, please let us know. Since they are not listed on the Logitech site, my guess is that they are not back in production and these were left overs or someone found them in a warehouse. Of course if someone from Logitech would be so gracious as to post a reply to this thread then I wouldn't have to make guesses.   FYI: To Logitech "customer service/support" I just did a quick count and I currently have six of these mice in use between my work and private residence for myself. This in not including the three I just ordered from Amazon. This also does not include the one wireless one for my HTPC and two wireless ones that are sitting in a box.
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  • The Grim Reefer
    Just a quick update. There is now only one of the three companies listing this as of 10 AM 2-17-11. Also ths company is charging $32.29 instead of the $28.40 I paid yesterday. Fortunately for me, it looks like my order has shipped from the original comapny.
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  • The Grim Reefer
    I received my order on Friday and am now the proud owner of three more Trackman Wheels. It looks like the prices are starting to go up. There are now three difffernet vendors selling them, ranging in price from $31 to $50.
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  • mtsavia
    Thanks again, Grim, for all the valuable feedback. When I ordered my 4 last week there were only a dozen left. If there's more to be had I will point a few people in that direction as well, and nudge them to post their comments about this subject.   EDIT: The company I ordered from was actually not Amazon, they only advertised through them. I got an e-mail stating they could not honor the order as they were out of stock and supplies could not be replaced. I now see there seems to be a lot of this going on.   Sadly the days of the wired Trackman Wheel and other Logitech devices are drawing to an end for my family and I.   Farewell, Logitech.
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  • Minrath
    I too use the trackman wheel, and have been using these trackballs for years.I keep multiple pc's in the house and the trackballs on every one of them to play MMO's and do other things.I cant get used to using a mouse, I have been using the trackballs too long, they make reaction time faster, and easier to manuever and move around for me.I have worn out quite a few trackmans and that was no easy feat.I probly have 20 broken ones lying around the house and am quite happy with how long they lasted.    By not releasing wireless ones now I am left to my own devices when one breaks.I love the look of the wireless, and the extra buttons would be a godsend for me.However I wont buy it just because it is wireless.
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  • moneymark
    I always feared this day would eventually come. No other trackball compares but I will be forced to come up with another option because wireless is just not a viable option. Going to be tough to relearn gaming on a normal mouse. Sad days. Hopefully logitech will come to their senses.
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  • The Grim Reefer
    Well folks, it looks like the last of the wired version are gone. At least from any of the vendors on Amazon, though I haven't seen them anywhere else either. I did open up the case of the older Trackman with the bad button. It looks like the left switch is identical to the right mouse button and both are soldered into the board by just three relatively large contacts. When I get a chance I'm going to desolder the right switch from another worn out Trackman and see if it can be used to replace the broken one. There's a very good chance this will work. Since I don't have a decent soldering iron anymore, I'm going to get a cheapy Radio Shack one to see if it can be done w/o frying the rest of the board. If so, then anyone with two bad Trackman Wheels should be able to at least make one usable one for the cost of a soldering iron and desoldering braid. Once I get the bad switch out I may take a closer look to see if the switch itself can be disassembled. My guess is it can't, but it's larger that I thought it would be so who knows. As it has a fairly small contact point between the bottom and the top of the switch, it may not be the switch that is bad, but a failure to physically move far enough to activate. If that's the case, perhaps some sort of shim can be used. I'll make sure to post my findings.
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  • frustratedwired
    Logitech, why aren't you listening?  The prices are going through the roof when you can even find them.  Just saw one listed for $200!!!
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  • The Grim Reefer
    The really sad thing is that I have two, still in the box, that I paid
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  • kbrasee
    It's probably just that there's only a few people who really care.  And I don't even see a $200 one on eBay, but I do see plenty for $15 to $40.  You can even buy a set of 40 for $14 each!
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  • myself48
    Count me as yet another long time TrackMan Wheel user, desperate for a re-continuance or a similar replacement from Logitech. Between work and home I own four Wheels and one wireless Wheel, which is aging and I was hoping in vain to replace this weekend. LOGITECH, why are you ignoring your formerly loyal customers???
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  • theDarkFox
    I just found out they'd discontinued the Trackman Wheel, and I couldn't believe it. I was actually looking to see if Logitech had finally caved and made a bluetooth trackball; looks like their instead trying to make everyone use their 2.4Ghz stuff, and removing the wired option.  So now I've got to be extra careful with my existing one. \r\n \r\nHere's hoping sanity returns and I can pick up a surplus stock one in few months for less than $80.   Logitech, please bring back the Trackman Wheel wired. If not perminately, atleast do a run so the fans can stockpile them! \r\n(and make a bluetooth version of the m570 while you're at it)   Edit: Also, to people with broken left buttons, I read they use the same switches as Microsoft mice. Don't know for sure.
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  • yoshus
    I created this accout just to echo the others in this thread. I am a huge fan of the wired models and it makes me sad to see them going away. I too cannot use wireless devices at work and I don't want to have to worry about batteries at home! Please consider making the wired trackballs again!
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  • tdaniels
    This is the only mouse I'll use, I have one for almost all my computers (short one now that they are out of stock).  Its perfect for a laptop setup and a chordless trackman is over kill when you're sitting right next to your computer.  Seems silly that they discontinued this given there is still valid demand. Guess Logitech knows what we want better than we do.
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  • The Grim Reefer
    "It's probably just that there's only a few people who really care.  And I don't even see a $200 one on eBay, but I do see plenty for $15 to $40.  You can even buy a set of 40 for $14 each!"   I'm sure that's what Logitech believes. My guesss is that there is enough of a market for it to be profitable, but just not enough to keep the shareholders happy. One problem is that they built these fairly well compared to most pointing devices so they tend to last a very long time. As you can see people keep trickeling into this site as they try to find out why these are no longer being produced. I would guess than only a small percentage are bothering to comment as well. Personally I know dozens of people that are going to be rather upset when their trackball wears out.   I can't say I looked on ebay, so I have no idea how much they are going for. Regardless, I wouldn't sell the ones I have for $200 if it was an option. \r\n
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  • The Grim Reefer
    It looks like Office depot has these in stock for $29.95 for anyone who is interested:   http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/590264/Logitech-TrackMan-Wheel-Corded-Mouse/[http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/590264/Logitech-TrackMan-Wheel-Corded-Mouse/]
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  • myself48
    Unfortunately if you try to purchase that item from Office Depot it says: "Unfortunately, the items below are no longer available.However, please consider a similar item from the list below."   The wireless M570 works well enough in my home office, but I don't dare use them at work in the emergency communications dispatch center where I have multiple workstations in close proximity.  Logitech, still no reply to your customers' needs?
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  • Robin-Whittle
    I am surprised and saddened that the company which created the best trackballs no longer makes a wired version.  I have been using Logitech thumb-operated trackballs since the grey ball "Trackman mouse T-PA1-9MD?" mechanical trackball.  Now, according to Google, there's no mention of this part number on the Net.  Its 74LS14 chip has a 1989 date-code, so that means I have been using these wonders for 21 years.   The thumb operated trackball is so superior to mice and any other trackball configuration that I believe mice and other such trackballs should be BANNED.  Why should people in their workplaces be allowed or required to use RSI-generating input devices when a far superior alternative exists?  Mice stress the entire arm and shoulder.  The thumb-operated trackball just gives the thumb a workout.   The simplicity of a wired Trackman Wheel can't be replicated with wireless, batteries and the like.  I plug an older version of the wired Trackman Wheel (bone-coloured case, red ball, "Trackman Marble Wheel") into my Acer netbook, with a suitably shortened cord, and all is well.  There's no batteries to replace, no interference, no dropping of the link etc.   I will still evangelize on behalf of these trackballs, as I have since 1990.  These devices to have contributed considerably to my productivity and health.  But now I must look like a bit of a kook when I add that the manufacturer no longer makes the wired version.  How hard can it be to continue with the wired version?    http://www.firstpr.com.au/ergonomics/[http://www.firstpr.com.au/ergonomics/]?   - Robin Whittle, Australia
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  • rir
    I want to echo the original poster;   I also don't often comment on products.   It was surprising to go out to buy five Trackman Wheels and find that the l?ine is being decimated.  Being the IT guy for a small company, I am not interested in unnecessary complications: batteries to fail or pointing devices interfering or not syncing.  So rather than simply spending money on a proven winner, I'm researching options.    The Trackman Wheel is a great pointer, I would expect that Logictech would be moving toward making a left-hand version, not reducing the line.  Everyone who I have gotten to try a T-BB18 has converted.  For years, this has seemed to me to be a marketing failure.   I, personally, have a M570 wireless version, bought May 2011, and find it to be of the same good quality as the wired versions.  It is not clear to me whether the device should be shut off when not used; the power switch is so small and inconvenient, I have my doubt.   The M570 is slightly smaller, it is a subtle difference which I only sometimes notice.  The M570 is perhaps 1 cm shorter in length.  I have two machines on my desk at home and both pointers at hand--many people won't notice the size change.   Blue balls!  Ha, who would've thought.   rir
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